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incarcerated. he is also bringing support staff if you will into the courtroom with him. can you talk about that? >> trump has adjusted his courtroom behavior around criticism that folks in the media have lobbed it him. bringing additional support to the courtroom is one more of those in the latest call and response between the media and trump about his courtrooms strategy. you will notice it yesterday. ken paxton was there and even carter page in the back of the courtroom, but eric trump was there, looking at times kind of uncomfortable to be discovering some of these documents for the first time himself. i really felt for the guy as a son and a family member, having to be the pond in that political game and the jury game that his dad appears to be playing. >> lisa rubin, good luck for the rest of this week. we will talk more soon. thank you, my friend. that is our show tonight and a reminder, you can listen to every episode of "alex wagner
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tonight" as a podcast, for free. please scan the qr code on your screen to listen on the go or listen to "alex wagner tonight" wherever you get your podcasts. now it is time for the last word. >> good evening, alex. that is good to know that i can listen to episodes of your show -- >> when you're jogging or whatever. >> i am too old to jog, i walk. >> have a good show. stack today, women in two different states are living in two different realities. women in arizona are one step closer today to undoing some of the damage caused by overturning roe v wade. the arizona senate voted to repeal the state's near-total abortion ban from 1864. it took multiple attempts to repeal the civil war era law that outlawed abortion from conception with exceptions only to save the mother's life and
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would imprison anyone who informs or helps a woman obtain an abortion. democratic governor katie hobbs will sign the bill tomorrow, adding in a statement, quote, while this is essential for protecting women's lives, it is just the beginning of our fight to protect reproductive healthcare in arizona. that is good news, but as vice president kamala harris noted, quote, while arizona democrats have worked to clean up the devastating miss created by trump and his extremist allies, the states existing van with no exception for rape or incest remains in effect. in florida, women there woke up to a new reality after a near- total abortion ban prohibiting the procedure after six weeks of pregnancy, before most women even know they are pregnant, went into effect today. earlier today, vice president harris was in jacksonville, florida, to mark the rollback of rights for women.
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she repeatedly emphasized donald trump's role, calling him the architect of the post road landscape in america. >> donald trump did this. donald trump hand-picked three members of the united states supreme court, because he intended for them to overturn roe. and as he intended, they did. because of donald trump, more than 20 states have abortion bands. more than 20. and today, this very day, at the stroke of midnight, another trump abortion ban went into effect in florida. as of this morning, 4 million women in this state woke up with fewer reproductive freedoms than they had last night. this is the new reality under a
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trump abortion ban. >> donald trump did this. the vice president mentioned donald trump by name more than 20 times today, the most she ever has in any campaign speech according to a campaign official. the jacksonville mayor and florida democratic house leader, who will both join us in a moment, spoke before vice president harris. >> pregnant women in florida are less safe and less in control of their own health and their own future than they were yesterday. may 1, 2024, will forever mark a day when we took a giant and dangerous step backwards. >> today, because of what donald trump did, florida's extreme abortion ban goes into effect and its impacts will be felt here at home, all across the southeast and by under
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resourced and minority women the most. >> voters in arizona and florida will have a chance to make their voices heard in november, through ballot initiatives that would protect abortion rights in their state constitutions. so far, voters in every state that has brought the issue directly to the ballot have sided with protecting women's rights. in a tacit acknowledgment of how potent this issue is to voters, donald trump is now refusing to say whether he would sign a federal abortion ban if he gets another term, even though he previously signaled support for a nationwide abortion ban. vice president harris reminded voters of that today. >> donald trump's friends in the united states congress are trying to pass a national ban and understand a national ban would outlaw abortion in every single state. even states like new york and california. and now trump wants us to
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believe he will not sign a national ban. well, i say enough with the gas lighting. enough with the gas lighting. >> in an interview with time magazine, the reporter notes that donald trump claimed abortion policies should be left to the states to do what they want, including monitoring women's pregnancies. quote, i think they might do that, he says. when i, the reporter, asked whether he would be comfortable with states prosecuting women for having abortions beyond the point the laws permit, he says it's irrelevant whether uncomfortable or not. it's totally irrelevant, because the states are going to make those decisions. but president biden took aim at those comments by donald trump today in this ad. >> folks, donald trump just said to time magazine. it is shocking. after bragging about overturning roe.
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it said women should be punished. states should be able to prosecute women. there is no limit to how invasive trump would let the state be. this should be a decision between the woman and her doctor and the government should get out of people's lives. >> joining us now, arizona attorney general. thank you for coming to the last word. your reaction to the passing today, the repeal. >> hi, thanks for having me. obviously it is a good day in arizona. we are breathing something of a sigh of relief. after our legislature finally repealed this insane 1864 near- total abortion ban that was written at a time when arizona was not a state. women could not vote and the civil war was still raging. as you noted, we are still not out of the woods. there could be a period of time, a few months in arizona
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where the 1864 ban actually goes into effect. i am working as hard as i can to try to prevent that from happening. we are hoping the arizona supreme court will put a stay on the 1864 ban. the reason is the repeal won't go into place until 90 days after the legislature ends the session, which could be as late as august or after that. so obviously it is a good day, but how insane is it that we even are talking about the women of our state having to live under an 1864 ban that if implemented, jonathan, will end up with a woman dying here. >> the vice president today said even though this repeal is relief, the vice president noted that arizona still is under a 15 week abortion ban
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with no exceptions for rape or incest, so the work is not over, is it? >> the work is not over. i believe the people of arizona are resoundingly going to pass a ballot initiative in november that will enshrine abortion rights in our constitution. you know, that 15 weeks itself has no exceptions for rape or incest and i have been talking to doctors and chief medical officers from hospitals all across the state of arizona, jonathan, who are living under that 15 week ban and they are having to make decisions about how close they allow a woman to get to death before they can care for her. and you know, when they have an emergency in their pregnancy. i mean, that is unacceptable in the year 2024, that doctors are having to consult with attorneys
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about whether or not they can provide care to a woman and save her life. so, yeah, we've got a lot of work to do in arizona and all across this land to make sure that women retain and have the right to control our own bodies and the right to live and the right to be free people. >> you know, attorney general, you and governor katie hobbs one in the wake of dobbs and you beat the republican candidate to become the top prosecutor by just 240 votes. some people think voting doesn't matter and i wonder, if you could, just speak to that for a minute. this morning people in arizona were living under a law that could've been used to prosecute them for their healthcare choices. >> yeah, jonathan. one small correction, 280
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votes. >> a little more. >> a little more, but you are right, it was the closest race in the history of arizona statewide race and the history of arizona and it means that every vote matters and as a result of this election i believe that i was elected to protect the women of this state against these outrageous abortion bands and to repent -- to protect rights. we have an attorney general in arizona who will fight for women. will fight for freedom and our liberties and will do everything i can to make sure that we protect reproductive rights in our state and that we carry out the will of our voters. this is what the people of arizona want. they want freedom and they want to control their own destiny. >> arizona attorney general kris mayes, thank you very much for coming to the last word. joining us now, the former
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democratic house leader and mary donna deegan of jacksonville, florida. leader driscoll, tell us how you and your constituents are feeling about this ban going into effect today. what did it mean to have vice president harris here today? >> it meant so much to us in florida to have our vice president with us. she has been a trusted ally. she was with us last year on the anniversary of roe v. wade. she has been able to stand with lawmakers. she has listened to practitioners. she has held the hand of patients. she really has been the ally we need and i will tell you the mood is at the same time somber, but also a little bit hopeful. this extreme abortion ban will prevent most women from getting an abortion because they won't even know they are pregnant by that point. but we also have the ability this fall to enshrine abortion
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access and florida's constitution, so the vice president's visit today certainly give us a boost of energy that we need to. >> trump is trying to walk back some of his abortion positions, but he's still bragging about the supreme court overturning roe. listen. >> they wanted to get abortion out of the federal government. everybody wanted that. that was uniform. what is happened is now the states decide and it has been an amazing process, but basically the states decide on abortion and people are absolutely thrilled with the way that is going on. >> so, your victory last year in purple jacksonville was seen as part of the post dobbs way. there are a lot of unaffiliated voters. what do you hear from voters about this issue? >> it certainly looks like we have the numbers to pass the referendum we are talking about. people are very concerned about this government overreach into
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the lives of women. as you know, florida is a privacy state. it is written into our constitution and people feel strongly about that. so it is with a great deal of optimism that we go into this election season believing that voters in florida will stand up for the rights of women and stand against government intrusion and stand for freedom for women in florida. >> do nondemocratic voters understand that republican lawmakers from trump to desantis are responsible for this? >> look, i think they do. when i won election in jacksonville, i won with a large amount of independent voters and a good deal of republican voters as well. i think people are fatigued with the rhetoric. i think they are fatigued with the extreme overreach we are seeing on issues like this and i think they are ready for people representing them that
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want to simply get things done for their communities. this is not what floridians want. it's very clear in the numbers that floridians believe they should have control over their own health care decisions, so i believe when we see this referendum come up that you will see floridians come out in force and say that abortion access is important to women in florida and we don't want government intruding on our freedoms. >> florida used to be a safe haven for women and surrounding southern states. what is the impact of this ban not just on floridians, but for women in neighboring states? >> you are right, it doesn't just impact women in florida. it effectively impacts women throughout the southeast and there are many women who would travel to florida for abortion care and now they won't be able to. i think the next closest state might be north carolina or virginia and here is the other thing to note, this is not going to stop florida's women from getting abortions.
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it means those who don't have the resources to travel out of state won't be able to get abortions and it is going to impact under resourced women and minority women the most, so it is awful. this has sweeping implications far beyond florida, but i agree floridians will show up in force at the polls. i tell you we had a special legislative election in january where we flipped a house seat from red to blue and nearly 70% of independents voted with us in that race and it is because we talked about the issue of abortion, so i am very hopeful for this fall. >> mayor deegan, do you believe republicans will stop at abortion? what about other rights for privacy and healthcare? >> i think this is the concern. i am a three-time cancer survivor. i had to go through a lot of chemotherapy and choose medications and care. the thought that the government
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could have any sort of role in choosing what i would do with my body, how i would handle my own health care decisions, is frightening to me. today we took a step in the direction of that, because women have less rights today to determine their own health care than they had yesterday. >> absolutely incredible. house democratic leader fentrice driskell and jacksonville mary donna deegan, thank you both very much for coming to the last word. coming up, today for the first time since his criminal trial started last month, donald trump spent a few hours on the campaign trail, starting in the battleground states joe biden won by 20,000 votes in 2020. that is next.
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i would prefer a president that truly seemed invested in serving the american people. >> and you feel that has not been the case with trump so far? >> ever? >> joe biden won wisconsin by 20,682 votes, flipping a state donald trump one in 2016. after spending the weekend at his house in florida, today donald trump spent his day off from his criminal trial in new york in the midwest, doing one campaign event in wisconsin and one in michigan, another state joe biden won in 2020. trump's pitch to those swing state voters, praising the supreme court justices for
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overturning roe. vowing to bring back a ban on day one of a second term and saying the republican party is plunging. >> last week we saw numbers showing clearly that the economy is crashing with the gop growth plunging by more than 50%. think of it, we are plunging. >> say what, now? i mean, the gop may be plunging into chaos, but the gdp, the gross domestic product, isn't. economic growth did slow more than expected in the first quarter. gross domestic product grew at an annual rate of 1.6% in the first three months of the year, below the estimate economists had predicted after back-to- back blockbuster gdp numbers for the last quarters of 2023. despite that, unemployment remains below 4% and wages and
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salaries for all workers rose faster than expected. one wall street analysis called this american economy, quote, a wolf in sheep's clothing. incredibly strong. trump said this, which is certainly how many of us remember the spring of 2021, after power had been transferred to president biden and vice president harris and it seemed like january 6 would be the end of trump and trumpism. >> we are not going to allow this horror to continue. three years ago we were a great nation. >> joining us now, democratic congresswoman gwen moore of wisconsin. she is a member of the house ways and means and economic committee. thank you for coming to the last word. today's rally can only be seen as a preview of what's to come
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since the republican convention will be in your home city of milwaukee this summer and trump is claiming middle and working- class people will do better under him then under president biden. what do you say to that? >> well, jonathan, i was tickled to death to hear your opening, as you sort of recounted some of the absolute absurdities of the trump claim while he was in waukesha. i do think that he was right when he said that the gop, if he said that the gop was plunging. the gdp always grows, because we have a huge economy. in order to have paid for those tax cuts, the $2 trillion that he gave away, you know, the majority of them, 75, 80% of them to the wealthiest americans. the gdp would have had to have grown by 6% for that to happen. it did not. that has caused some of the
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deficits we are experiencing. that he gave all of his friends all of this money. we had senator phil gramm come back and test -- and testify last weekend repeatedly asserted that people in the lowest quintile of the economic spectrum had gotten $5000 out of the tax cuts and when i challenged him, he finally had to laugh and say i was kind of averaging it out. there is no averaging it out. this was a giveaway to the wealthiest people. to corporations. it did not help small businesses and he should stop asking people if they are better off now than they were four years ago. because everybody knows what they were doing four years ago. as we hid from covid and died
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and found ourselves being evicted and our businesses closing. he should stop asking that question. >> congresswoman, in that time magazine interview and elsewhere he has been talking about, you know, renewing those tax cuts. i bring that up because, this is what is so funny. in the latest marquette university law school poll, 52% of registered voters in wisconsin believe donald trump is better on the economy, while 34% believe joe biden is better on the economy. what is it going to take, congresswoman, to get wisconsin battleground voters to come around on the economy and hear what you were saying a moment ago, but also hear what the president and vice president have been saying both from the white house and the campaign trail about the economy? >> well, people need to look at the facts. i think it is important for people to recognize that when their community and their neighbors all have jobs and
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when the economy lifts all boats, that that is what we should aspire to. not just a few of our friends. we don't have that many billionaires in wisconsin except maybe the one running against tammy baldwin. we don't have that many billionaires, so if you are going to evaluate the economy based on the couple of people who are doing well, you know, there are people who benefited from the economy. you know, you take small businesses for example or we talk about the 199 rule, where we have provided a pass-through so that we can lower small business owners taxes down to 21%. well, here's the point. you know, this benefit benefits a very narrow, small number of small businesses, but it benefits a whole lot more businesses that are pretending,
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that are really corporations that ought not have the benefit. >> congresswoman, let me get you on one more thing before i have to let you go. the new york times reports across milwaukee residents can see evidence of federal money from laws passed under the biden administration if they know where to look. of the more than $1 billion for milwaukee county in the american rescue plan act, the infrastructure investment and jobs act and inflation reduction act, much is harder to see, like funds and drastic cuts to public safety. congresswoman, how are you communicating those investments to your constituents? >> we have to take advantage of these few months that we have. this president has reduced student debt and eliminated student debt. we get to the point that
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everybody knows somebody who has benefited from this. those lead pipes and this was a crisis in milwaukee. we are seeing not only are we getting rid of these lead pipes, but we've got some bmws, black men working. as a black business is fully employing people to dig up those lead pipes. we are definitely seeing people paying no more than $35 per month for insulin. i want to harp on other things like the affordable care act that the president is vowing to get rid of as soon as he is back in the oval office. i have three, three granddaughters who have benefited from the provision put in that bill by tammy baldwin that allows kids to stay on their parents healthcare until they are 26 years old. so i want people to not be blinded by what is right in front of their faces. when they drive down the street and see those orange cones,
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that is money. that is not just a traffic jam. >> congresswoman moore, thank you for being here. thank you for giving me a new acronym. i didn't realize i am a bmw, black man working. congresswoman moore, thank you very much. joining us now, the chairman of the democratic party of wisconsin. chairman, thank you for being here. your response to trump's visit to wisconsin today? >> thanks so much for having me on, jonathan. i have to say it was especially galling to have donald trump in wisconsin on may day, an international day of celebration of workers rights. this is a union state where unions have been under attack, especially by people donald trump put into office. scott walker smashed unions here. donald trump appointed antiunion justices, antiunion labor relations board members and union density in wisconsin
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went down and down until joe biden became president. now we have the most pro-union president in american history, the first-ever to walk on a picket line and he appointed members of the board who have restored union rights. unions are bouncing back in wisconsin. the number of union members is going up for the first time in three decades in our state and that is a great thing for workers. it is a great thing for everyone in the middle class or who wants to be in the middle class and it is infuriating that biden would come here on this special day of celebration of workers during his lies and ridiculous attacks. >> you meant trump, that trump would come. >> yes, sorry. biden is welcome any may day and any labor day in our state and has been here in our state. trump is really the person who led the billionaire charge against unions and against workers during his presidency. despite talking a big con, he
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sticks workers with the bill every time. >> i want to pick up something you talked about at the beginning, which was how galling it was to you that donald trump was in the state on may day, which celebrates workers. i want to point something out. bloomberg reports that donald trump is winning financial support from grassroots contributors who work for highly unionized workplaces. this is according to fec data. what does joe biden have to do to win over union workers in wisconsin? >> well, president biden is doing a ton to make sure workers have funds in their pockets that they can contribute to the candidate of their choice or used to support their families. unions do extraordinary work to make sure their members know who is sticking up for their paychecks, for their union organizing rights. the democratic party of wisconsin, we are organizing all over the state, knocking on doors. people can volunteer and the campaign is going to communicate about how they will
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ensure that there are constantly new jobs to do, great things to build in our state. i think we are going to see a lot of that on the airwaves and frankly people will be talking to one another. trump is a con man. trump tries to fool people and convince them he is on their side and stiff them. he refuses to pay his own contractors and does the same thing with this country. unless you are a billionaire friend of his, he's probably going to leave you worse off and the critical thing between now and november 5 when the polls close is that anyone who is rebuilding the state of wisconsin, anyone who knows someone who wants to rebuild the state of wisconsin has to spread the word that one candidate, joe biden, is on the side of workers and one candidate, donald trump, is going to screw them over like he screwed over workers who worked for him for decades. >> with that we will leave it there. ben wikler, thank you very much. coming up, donald trump raised the conservative supreme court justices by name on the campaign trail today as they
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in his interview with time magazine this week, one of the many disturbing exchanges donald trump had was a discussion about pardoning the
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january 6 rioters. the reporter says, you have called the men and women who have been prosecuted for their actions on january 6 hostages and political prisoners. more than 800 of these people have been sentenced through our judicial system, most of whom pleaded guilty. some of them have been convicted by juries. you've said you will pardon them. are you calling into question the conclusions of the justice system in more than 800 cases? trump then speaks without answering the question, repeatedly attacking the u.s. judicial system with a string of lives we are not going to show you. trump is then asked, will you consider pardoning everyone of them? trump answers, i would consider that, yes. so what is trump telegraphing to his supporters with that answer as another election looms? it sounds like he is saying there is a real life get out of jail free card for this lawlessness.
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that crimes committed for him aren't really crimes. that message is dangerous. that message is un-american. that message is the message of a would-be autocrat. joining us now, neal katyal, former acting solicitor general of the united states who has argued more than 50 cases before the supreme court. he is a professor at georgetown law and host of the podcast, courtside with neal katyal, as well as an msnbc legal analyst. we have heard donald trump hint at this before, but how did he react when you read what he said about pardoning the january 6 rioters? >> i think it speaks, jonathan, volumes about trump that he has proposed blanket pardons for these january 6 rioters and that was not even the scariest idea. i mean you have talked about some of the ideas already regarding things like that. trump did not say he was going
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to pardon some, he said he would consider every single capitol riot her, including people who brought firearms, tomahawks, even an explosive device into the capital. it was absurd and trump lies so compulsively that i don't even know he knows the difference between what actually happened and what is in his head. for example in the interview he said only ashley, no last name, died in the attack. no, seven people died in the attack according to the bipartisan senate report. trump claims in that interview that he offered 10,000 soldiers to stop the january 6 attacks and he was the one who said no to that. that is disproven by the official timeline and has no mention of any such request. this is lie upon lie and as you say, jonathan, it is dangerous and un-american.
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>> speaking to time, trump repeated something we've heard before. quote, i happen to think a president has to have immunity, because otherwise it is going to be just a ceremonial position. could trump's constant lobbying for immunity make it harder for conservatives on the supreme court to decide in his favor? >> i mean it is such a bogus argument, jonathan, for him to be saying this. we had 46 presidents that weren't named trump and we've done fine. they did not have immunity. indeed the american revolution was based on the idea that immunity for king george the third was antithetical to everything we believed in and trump wants to resurrect that time, wants to take us back, but certainly not the constitution of the united states. it may be what is going on in russia or something like that. >> speaking of president biden, trump also told time, quote, take a look at the criminal acts of taking a lot of money and being a manchurian
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candidate. biden i am sure will be prosecuted for all of his crimes, because he has committed many crimes. i mean, come on. the criminal defendant doffed protest too much. >> exactly and talking out both sides of his mouth. he readily said presidents need to be immune and now he says he wants to go after and prosecute biden. none of this makes sense. if the country reelects donald trump we will have no one to blame but ourselves. he is not attempting to hide his contempt for american democracy or the constitution. he is giving us his game plan in this interview, in the election denialism he has had all throughout. in his claims about weaponize and the justice department, of which this claim is part. so we should go in with our eyes open. >> neal katyal as always, thank you for coming to the last word. coming up, the fight to win
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(♪♪) (♪♪) try dietary supplements from voltaren, for healthy joints. this week, vice president kamala harris traveled to the battleground state of georgia where she touted the biden administration's economic record and met with small business owners. she also told msnbc why she is
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traveling from state to state, speaking with black voters. >> the president and i come from a place of understanding that yes, it is very significant that our economic policies have resulted in black unemployment being at historic lows and it is important to understand that, like all people, when we are focused on the dreams and desires of black men and young black men, that it is, yes, to have a job, but to have a career. career. build wealth, to be able to buy a home, go on a nice vacation from time to time, to take care of their family, to build equity so that when their children want to go to college, they have some resources to help pay for the tuition, right? so the work that i'm doing in this tour is really to speak to that part of a broader and a
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very broad based economic policy that's about strengthening the economy as a whole but truly understanding the hopes and the desires and the ambitions and making sure that we are eating folks where they are. >> this marks the fourth time this year that vice president harris has traveled to georgia. and later this month, president biden will speak at or hells -- morehouse college. the campaigns focus on young black voters shows that it's paying attention to the lack of enthusiasm from this very important voting block. more black men said they plan to back donald trump this fall according to a recent poll of seven swing states, some 30% of them said they were either definitely or probably going to vote for the former republican president. in the wall street journal poll, 11% of black women said they were definitely or probably going to vote for
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trump. in the same poll, 57% of black male voters in the battlegroundv states said they support president biden while 77% of black women said they support the president. joining us now davon t jennings, the chair of the young democrats of georgia black caucus, thank you very much for being here. you have been helping to reach would be voters in georgia, what are you hearing from them? >> we are hearing that we want to be at the forefront, how they are making the tors around, and making us the priority in this election year, we want to see something like that all year round. we appreciate a lot of the things that are going on right now but we would love to see the support and efforts keep going all throughout the year outside of election year.
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>> my bad i should be calling you chairman jennings, so german jennings, you have said that your younger friends are divided on voting for biden. what issues seem to be keeping them from giving him their support. >> it deals around cannabis reform which we know couple of days ago president biden's administration has done some work with that, i think the next step would be expungement when it comes to criminal records, you know, a lot of our communities have been affected by these things and i think once we start seeing the biden administration taking a change towards the criminal justice system that has affected our communities, i think a lot more people are going to get on board . >> vice president harris was in atlanta discussing entrepreneurship and with the biden administration has done to help uplift minority businesses, debt relief, programs for first-time homebuyers, are these messages resonating with black voters? ti >> yes, and i actually was at
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that event and got to hear everything she was talking about, and i think people were blown away, honestly, i think that's exactly what the administration needs to keep doing, they need to keep putting to the forefront what they are doing, highlighting the winds, and showing exactly what their plan is, i think they are doing a great job of getting away from just saying, one side is racist or one side doesn't care about your economic growth and laying out a detailed plan so i was extremely impressed. >> what specifically worked for you, wasn't the fact that they issued a detailed plan, that they talked specifics? >> yes, and it was more than just how do we get the black
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vote, i think when you say things like how do we get the black vote, you start to make a special younger black people feel like we are a political pawn but once you start laying out a mission and you're saying, these are going to be e the resources we will be making available to you and this is the science that we see that is affecting your community, here are the resources and here's how we plan to go about it. that starts to resonate with people a lot more. >> when he ask you one more thing, chairman jennings, because earlier, i mentioned, the wall street journal reported on an increase in black voters considering voting for president trump, i'm sorry, i don't buy it, what do you it think, do you buy it? and if so, what do you think is behind that support and are you concerned about that? >> there is some support for him but i think the numbers are inflated, if you look at the science and the work that the new jordan project has done, i think it would debunk a lot of that. it's nowhere near that high. a lot of the tactics that he is using are going to catch some people's attention but a lot of people and i have great faith
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within not just the black community for us as black men to see past all of that and see through the smoke and mirrors, i can guarantee you one thing with the work that we are doing, we are going to make sure that doesn't happen. >> chairman of the young democrats of georgia black caucus, thank you very much for coming to the last word. >> thank you. >> the last word is next. is net lowering bad cholesterol can be hard, even with a statin. diets and exercise add to the struggle. today, it's possible to go from struggle to cholesterol success with leqvio.
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