chanting. hundreds of demonstrators remain at the university of california — despite a police order demanding they leave. iama i am a student here. i am an english major. please do not fail us. dozens of students have been detained — some reportedly injured — after hundreds of officers descended on the camp. here at ucla this morning, the barricades and the tents have been dismantled and those detained are being taken away by police in buses. also in the programme — uncovering what happened to adam — a bbc investigates why an eight—year—old boy was shot dead in the west bank. and — some new rules for dua lipa — the pop superstar�*s headling

glastonbury and her third album is about to drop. hello, i'm matthew amroliwala , welcome to verified live, three hours of breaking stories, and checking out the truth behind them. we start in the us — and dramatic scenes at the university of california in los angeles — where police moved in to clear the encampment of student protests aganst the war in gaza. explosion. officers in riot gear, launched flares, fired flash bang grenades — with reports too, of firing ruber bullets. scenes like this — went on for hours and sprawled over different parts of thwe campus. many of the barricades have been dismantled. outside the encampment, an even larger crowd of demonstrators gathered to show support. earlier, california's governor, gavin newsom, accused police

of being too slow to respond after counter—demonstrators attacked the camp at ucla on tuesday night. iama i am a student here. i am an english major. please, do not fail us, do not fail us. officers have arrested demonstrators, who were led away with their hands tied behind their backs. protests against the war in gaza are continuing at 30 universities across the united states, with arrests taking place on multiple campuses. in a moment — we'll be live with emma vardy — first though, my colleague helena humphrey spent the night at the ucla campus — and spoke to us as police moved in. you can see the police lines and the police moving forward and check in here for layers in the air now, we do not know exactly what that is but

you can see the hustle and bustle of what is going on in that encampment as police have broken through that perimeter, they are dragging away the barricades. you can hear what appears to be fireworks right now, more of the california highway patrol going in, those fireworks continuing to go off and it appears they may be making some arrests, people appear to be coming out with their hands tied behind their backs, i can see one such protester so far and he is being escorted away from the scene and you can see the police starting to pull away metal barricades. we know plywood had been used as reinforcements throughout the course of the day and certainly it appears to be some kind of turmoil going on right now as police cast away those barricades that have been erected and reinforced throughout the course of the

afternoon as they move in from the other side. afternoon as they move in from the otherside. earlierthey afternoon as they move in from the other side. earlier they moved in from behind, we believe. essentially. they had since retreated but now they are coming from the other side and a significant opening now of this area where we believe a few hundred people are still inside, despite those calls for people to disperse. they are throwing fireworks into the air as you can see. directly at police as they move in. those were 'ust some police as they move in. those were just some of _ police as they move in. those were just some of the _ police as they move in. those were just some of the scenes _ police as they move in. those were just some of the scenes that - police as they move in. those were just some of the scenes that went. police as they move in. those were i just some of the scenes that went on for hours, the confrontation between police and students as police tried to move them and dismantle the gathering. here are the up—to—date pictures, live pictures, police have not dismantled the entire campus and there is a slight pause in terms of what we were witnessing in the last

few hours. live to our north america correspondent emma vardy at the ucla campus. tell us for what it has been like over the last few hours? an tell us for what it has been like over the last few hours? an eventful niuht over the last few hours? an eventful night because _ over the last few hours? an eventful night because a _ over the last few hours? an eventful night because a massive _ over the last few hours? an eventful night because a massive police - night because a massive police operation was in the offing. the protesters knew it themselves and the encampment, they were getting ready, hard hats and goggles. hundreds of police surrounded the entire encampment and systematically moved in, dismantling bits of it and gradually pushing protesters back and systematically moving their way around it. ithink and systematically moving their way around it. i think as you heard on earlierfootage, lots of around it. i think as you heard on earlier footage, lots of loud around it. i think as you heard on earlierfootage, lots of loud bangs ringing out, the noise almost ringing out, the noise almost ringing in my earfrom listening to them overnight but it had the effect of being disorientating and it gave police enough time to corral protesters into different parts and

i would say from the police perspective they have achieved their aim and managed to clear out the entire encampment. it is pretty much flattened if you walk around there, it is a sea of debris and tents on the floor and we have seen the protesters let out behind me here, dozens of them lined up sitting along the road, we call them cable ties but they are not metal handcuffs, but with their hands tied behind their backs and buses have arrived and it appears they are processing them one by one and taking the students away. we can hear lots of chanting so it appears there is still a demonstration continuing outside the encampment, a lot of this is coordinated on social media, people calling for reinforcements and people to come down but i think as far as the encampment is concerned police have achieved what they set out to do in terms of going in and getting that cleared but this is still by no means over. fir

cleared but this is still by no means over.— cleared but this is still by no means over. or the authority is aaivin means over. or the authority is giving any _ means over. or the authority is giving any sort _ means over. or the authority is giving any sort of _ means over. or the authority is giving any sort of numbers - means over. or the authority is i giving any sort of numbers about arrests? because at its height it was said around 2000 students were gathered and we saw the clearance operation and we saw people being led away. at those people been arrested or large numbers, have they said anything in terms of putting a figure on it? i said anything in terms of putting a figure on it?— figure on it? i have not seen official numbers _ figure on it? i have not seen official numbers but - figure on it? i have not seen official numbers but i - figure on it? i have not seen official numbers but i saw i figure on it? i have not seen - official numbers but i saw dozens arrested myself and being taken away. it seems they won't just arrested myself and being taken away. it seems they won'tjust be in detained and then released because they are being processed behind us. we will have to wait and see what those numbers were but as i say, the police operation was almost like a large circle so things going on in different corners of the campus and many police here on site. just different corners of the campus and many police here on site.— many police here on site. just a final thought. _ many police here on site. just a final thought. are _ many police here on site. just a final thought. are you - many police here on site. just a final thought. are you saying i many police here on site. just a l final thought. are you saying that enclosure that they were trying to clear to the best of your knowledge, that has been cleared more or less in its entirety orjust pockets of

that and i suppose the unknown is whether there will be future protests in the coming hours and days? that encampment has been cleared of protesters, i walked around it about an hour ago, picking my way through the debris. that is all that is left, the remainder of destroyed tents and equipment that the protesters brought onto the sites of the encampment is cleared of demonstrators but there is a gathering of demonstrators still here on what was the outskirts of the encampment but that is rather different, people are still chanting and holding flags and things like that but quite different to the dog in encampment that had been here for a number of days. emma, thank you so much. with me now benjamin kersten, a graduate student injewish studies at ucla, and a member ofjewish voices for peace.

i know you were there at the encampment earlier, i heard your descriptions, give me a sense of what it was like being caught up in all of that? it what it was like being caught up in all of that? ., , what it was like being caught up in all of that? . , ., ., , what it was like being caught up in all of that? . , . ., , , all of that? it was a really intense ni . ht, all of that? it was a really intense night. thank _ all of that? it was a really intense night. thank you _ all of that? it was a really intense night, thank you for _ all of that? it was a really intense night, thank you for having - all of that? it was a really intense night, thank you for having me i all of that? it was a really intense l night, thank you for having me on. colleagues and peers and friends of mine were in the encampment, i was standing outside. we were all subjected to the relentless flash bang grenades which is your colleague said were very disorientating. and i chose to be in a support role on the outside. and was getting told reports of rubber bullets being fired, students being thrown to the ground. and i find it upsetting that we wound up at this place. i think the university had many opportunities to take meaningful action is towards meeting the demands of the encampment and so

to me this is a place we did not need to end up being and some that many of us did not need to go through it last night. i many of us did not need to go through it last night.- many of us did not need to go through it last night. i wanted to ask if what _ through it last night. i wanted to ask if what you're _ through it last night. i wanted to ask if what you're made - through it last night. i wanted to ask if what you're made of - through it last night. i wanted to ask if what you're made of the l ask if what you're made of the tactics both from the university and the police? tactics both from the university and the olice? , ., , , g the police? yes, absolutely. my persuective _ the police? yes, absolutely. my persuective on _ the police? yes, absolutely. my perspective on the _ the police? yes, absolutely. myj perspective on the encampment the police? yes, absolutely. my- perspective on the encampment was limited, i was on a couple of different sides and i don't know much about how the decisions were made. but i was hearing about how police were moving in from various sites. certainly it seemed like they were waiting until the early hours of the morning, hoping that folks on the inside retired or maybe the numbers outside had thinned out but eventually once they moved in it seemed relentless and in terms of

tactics, i was worried for my friends in there, what i was hearing. it sounded like the response was quite violent. and again, as faras response was quite violent. and again, as far as tactics of the university, i don't think we needed to end up in this place. that, to me, shows a blatant disregard for student safety but i think one of the other issues is the non—action and lack of meaningful engagement with hearing from students about the issues that they care about. you talked about _ issues that they care about. you talked about student safety. one of the reasons a variety of universities have set for the way they responded is for the safety of jewish students. in terms of your conversations with jewish students at ucla i know you're told our producer there is not a uniform force, there are different perspectives so give me an idea of

some of the conversations you have been having. some of the conversations you have been having-— some of the conversations you have been having. correct. she introduced me correctly. — been having. correct. she introduced me correctly. i _ been having. correct. she introduced me correctly, i organised _ been having. correct. she introduced me correctly, i organised a _ been having. correct. she introduced me correctly, i organised a jewish i me correctly, i organised a jewish voice for peace at ucla and this is ajewish organisation voice for peace at ucla and this is a jewish organisation that stands in solidarity with palestinians and their work for freedom. solidarity with palestinians and theirwork forfreedom. many solidarity with palestinians and their work for freedom. many of us were participants in the encampment over the last week and we even contributed programming, that became a staple of the encampment, opening spaces for community building that at the same time i have to have respect forjewish students who might have been made uncomfortable by the encampment and its demands and i guess i would hope that we can be critical however in our assessment of anti—semitism and our assessment of anti—semitism and our assessment of anti—semitism and our

assessment of what is safe and unsafe day unsafe versus what is discomfort. unsafe day unsafe versus what is discomfort-— unsafe day unsafe versus what is discomfort. , . ., ., . discomfort. just a final thought. we looked like we _ discomfort. just a final thought. we looked like we are _ discomfort. just a final thought. we looked like we are seeing _ discomfort. just a final thought. we looked like we are seeing the - discomfort. just a final thought. we looked like we are seeing the tail i looked like we are seeing the tail end perhaps of these protests, we will see what happens in the next few hours but if this is the end of this protest, do you think there will likely be more protests on campus or do you think there is likely to be a police presence that makes that much more difficult? it is hard to say. i would certainly hope there is not a police presence on campus, so sorry about the background noise, iam on campus, so sorry about the background noise, i am waiting outside the precinct, i would hope there is not an increased police presence on campus but at the same time, whether there is or is not, i certainly do not think this will be the last of actions taken towards the last of actions taken towards the demand of divestment and in solidarity with palestinians who are

facing a genocide and imminent starvation. the divest coalition was around for the last couple of years, organising protests every time came to campus and i think we all know we are trying to honour the legacy of student activism and the pressure it took to achieve divestment from apartheid south africa. ben'amin, thank ou apartheid south africa. ben'amin, thank you so i apartheid south africa. ben'amin, thank you so much i apartheid south africa. ben'amin, thank you so much fort apartheid south africa. benjamin, thank you so much forjoining - apartheid south africa. benjamin, thank you so much forjoining us l apartheid south africa. benjamin, l thank you so much forjoining us on bbc news. let's talk to eric lerner who helped organise the columbia university protests in 1968. hamilton hall cleared of protesters, the camp was also cleared. welcome to bbc news. as you have been watching the scenes over the last few days and weeks, has that taken you back to 1968? it’s

few days and weeks, has that taken you back to 1968?— you back to 1968? it's amazing that the seem you back to 1968? it's amazing that they seem to _ you back to 1968? it's amazing that they seem to be — you back to 1968? it's amazing that they seem to be on _ you back to 1968? it's amazing that they seem to be on an _ you back to 1968? it's amazing that they seem to be on an anniversaryl they seem to be on an anniversary schedule because this is not only the events of 68 in colombia, the events of 68 in france which are going on simultaneously because what is happening now is obviously in response to the repression today just like the response to the repression of the students in the us and france in 68. students are reaching out to workers for solidarity and are receiving that solidarity and are receiving that solidarity because people see this as an attack on the rights of all, the attack on gaza, it is an attack on all of us on the attack on the rights of students, the attack on the rights of all people. for example we saw yesterday, mayday, students and supporters reached out to workers at the port of oakland

and that was shut down. i to workers at the port of oakland and that was shut down.- and that was shut down. i was talkin: and that was shut down. i was talking yesterday _ and that was shut down. i was talking yesterday to _ and that was shut down. i was talking yesterday to a - and that was shut down. i was. talking yesterday to a journalist who had spoken to many of the protesters at columbia university who told him they had studied the tactics that you used back in the 60s to work out what to do here. can you see that in the way it has played out, the takeover of hamilton hall? ~ �* , ., , hall? well, it's not 'ust the tactics. t h hall? well, it's not 'ust the tactics. i am h hall? well, it's not 'ust the tactics. i am a _ hall? well, it's notjust the tactics. i am a member- hall? well, it's notjust the tactics. i am a member of i hall? well, it's notjust the i tactics. i am a member of the international luxembourg network, based on rosa luxemburg, the german revolutionary and more than 100 years ago she showed mass strikes as she called them, developed by certain lawful means that repression spread these strikes and that the key thing was to act in the interests of all so the fact that the students are essentially

replaying that, based on basic dynamics, not only studying our playbook but what is happening. and what is happening today is what is happening in 68 but sped up. this is happening in 68 but sped up. this is happening on a global basis more rapidly because of the existence of the world wide web, the level of resistance to the war in gaza. so what we are seeing is workers, doctors, people at choke points, starting to come to the aid of the students. i and some of the local group supporting the students were out at our local port, one of the biggest in the world, yesterday. we were distributing information to them, to the workers, the dockers, and i had an escort of six police

cars following me around, very politely trying to prevent me from distributing the literature because they don't want a student work alliance on the scale of the general strike in france. which mobilised 10 million workers. i strike in france. which mobilised 10 million workers.— million workers. i suppose the key difference between _ million workers. i suppose the key difference between what _ million workers. i suppose the key difference between what we - million workers. i suppose the key difference between what we see i million workers. i suppose the key| difference between what we see on the campuses and what happened in 68 is howjewish students feel about all of this going on around them. the university is being told by so many of them that they feel unsafe and that has prompted what we have seen from so many of these universities but let me ask you a final question because back in 68, this followed democrats all the way to the convention in chicago. as it got the same potential here to do that? this year, this time round, forjoe biden? that? this year, this time round, forjoe biden?— forjoe biden? when people are callint forjoe biden? when people are calling him _ forjoe biden? when people are calling him genocide _ forjoe biden? when people are calling him genocide joe, - forjoe biden? when people are calling him genocide joe, whatl forjoe biden? when people are l calling him genocide joe, what do calling him genocidejoe, what do you think? the key thing is people

are organising, we are organising online, we are going to be having global meetings at the weekend to discuss amongst workers in many countries how to discuss this and people can learn about it on the website. the organising is going to go on, there's going to be protests unmake the 15th and many protests i am sure before that, to shut down the war machine and to unite students and workers to end this war and make a better world for all of us. . y ., ~ , us. eric, you think this will continue? _ us. eric, you think this will continue? thank _ us. eric, you think this will continue? thank you - us. eric, you think this will continue? thank you so i us. eric, you think this will i continue? thank you so much for joining us and giving us your perspective. we can now speak to richard goodstein, a former adviser to bill clinton who is now

a democrat strategist. how tricky do you think this is for the current administration watching the current administration watching the unfold across the numerous campuses?— the unfold across the numerous cam-uses? ., ., ., , ., campuses? your favourite should understand _ campuses? your favourite should understand that _ campuses? your favourite should understand that the _ campuses? your favourite should understand that the last - campuses? your favourite should understand that the last guests l campuses? your favourite should i understand that the last guests that you shoot are in a very distinct minority of the opinions of the united states. there was an opinion poll out this morning that should bite massive amounts of the american public wants the police to clear out these encampments. again, there is a right to free speech and a right to protest but they do not have a right, it is not a question of jewish feelings, they are being pushed and shoved and denied access to libraries and classrooms and dormitories, physically, where before what has happened over the last couple of days. so these are anarchists. we saw them in the aftermath of... anarchists. we saw them in the aftermath of. . ._ anarchists. we saw them in the aftermath of... are you honestly sa int, aftermath of. .. are you honestly saying. all— aftermath of. .. are you honestly saying. all of— aftermath of... are you honestly saying, all of those _ aftermath of... are you honestly saying, all of those hundreds i aftermath of... are you honestly saying, all of those hundreds of| saying, all of those hundreds of thousands, all of them are

anarchists, you think? do not misquote _ anarchists, you think? do not misquote me. _ anarchists, you think? do not misquote me, do _ anarchists, you think? do not misquote me, do not... i anarchists, you think? do not misquote me, do not... that| anarchists, you think? do not- misquote me, do not... that was a question. i think there are students who are well—meaning, you can tell who are well—meaning, you can tell who is an anarchist and who is a student, most students in harvard and yale are not looking to pick fights with police, they are law—abiding and they will move on but the anarchists are looking to pick fights and set up these illegal encampments, blocking and blocking people from going about their business and intimidating them in the guise of being pro—hamas or maybe a best pro—palestinian. so even this entire notion of genocide joe... tomas commits to genocide against israel, that is its fundamental covenant. israel could not commit genocide against the palestinians in gaza and does not see this notion of apartheid, there are arabs in israel who vote on the

supreme court and vote to serve on the supreme court, that student you heard from ucla, it's nonsense. in terms of the wider politics, because it is notjust going on on university campuses. there is a writer and ease amongst some democrats, you would accept that, is that doing damage tojoe biden, the democrats, as we approach a presidential election? jae democrats, as we approach a presidential election? joe biden has been on mitigating _ presidential election? joe biden has been on mitigating in _ presidential election? joe biden has been on mitigating in his— been on mitigating in his condemnation of anti—semitism. donald trump dines with leading anti—semites in the united states, with the leading white nationalists. joe biden condemns the takeover of this building at columbia, donald trump sat by when his supporters and incidentally this anarchists at columbia or notjoe biden people.

but there is a vital point... i am sorry to interrupt you but there is a vital point because she would have seen the frustration of the biden administration at the way israel has conducted this war? that is for so many of the protesters are also focusing on, notjust the divestment issue of the universities but it is the way israel has carried out the war and that is where they're focuses so do you not see at all any unease amongst democrat supporters about basic issue and whether the continued stance from the administration is doing potential damage? administration is doing potential damate? ., ., , administration is doing potential damate? ., ., ., ., damage? politics is a matter of choices. damage? politics is a matter of choices- we — damage? politics is a matter of choices. we know _ damage? politics is a matter of choices. we know joe _ damage? politics is a matter of choices. we knowjoe biden i damage? politics is a matter of choices. we knowjoe biden is. damage? politics is a matter of l choices. we know joe biden is for damage? politics is a matter of i choices. we know joe biden is for a choices. we knowjoe biden is for a two state solution and donald trump is against it. joe biden once to keep no more settlements in the west bank, donald trump has given benjamin netanyahu the green light so the list goes on. of course there are sunnis across the political spectrum about seeing what is

happening in gaza but i do not hear a lot of these people protesting talking about cutting off the breast of israelis as beanbags on october the 7th, i do not hear that being the 7th, i do not hear that being the crowd, as much as i hear talk about genocidejoe and apartheid so excuse me if democrats say it is chomp on the wrong side of the question, notjoe biden. fit, chomp on the wrong side of the question, not joe biden.- question, not joe biden. a final thoutht. question, not joe biden. a final thought- if— question, not joe biden. a final thought. if this _ question, not joe biden. a final thought. if this continues i question, not joe biden. a final thought. if this continues at i thought. if this continues at american universities, the number is around 30 so far, you heard the question i asked to one of the organisers of the 68 protests because those protests continued right through to chicago and you had the police and the mayor ordering in police to clear back protesters in the 605. that is police to clear back protester5 in the 605. that is what we had at the democratic convention so are you worried there could be similar types of scenes, briefly? i worried there could be similar types of scenes, briefly?— of scenes, briefly? i suspect there will be the —

of scenes, briefly? i suspect there will be the exact _ of scenes, briefly? i suspect there will be the exact same _ of scenes, briefly? i suspect there will be the exact same scenes i of scenes, briefly? i suspect there will be the exact same scenes at l will be the exact same scenes at both conventions because these anarchi5ts, frankly, know they will have all sorts of cameras and media coverage at the republican convention a5 coverage at the republican convention as well as the democratic convention and the republicans are every bit as complicit in whatever they are arguing about us democrats 5o they are arguing about us democrats so i am sure the anarchists will try to make a scene and my guess is both places will be prepared for that. richard, we are coming to the end of this particular part of the programme but we are grateful to have your input and thank you for taking the time to speak to us. i am back with more headlines in the programme inju5t a couple of moments. do not go away. good afternoon. it was 5tormy across the south of england last night with around 4,000 lightning strikes recorded and the threat of thundery downpours this afternoon and tonight and tomorrow. more 5un5hine around today,

always best in the north and west. for the rest of the afternoon it's quite cloudy across england and wales, dry in the south—west with the threat of thunderstorms breaking out into east anglia and wales. north sea coasts, cloudy and cool here, the best of the sunshine for northern ireland and scotland, reaching 22 degrees in north—west scotland, still warm for east anglia. this evening and overnight this waving front bring5 cloud and outbreaks of rain across england and wales. still mi5ty for north sea facing coasts and this low pressure could bring some more thunderstorms. on friday this waving front pushes further north. we have an area of low pressure bringing thundery downpours north and west as we head through the day, lots of cloud spreading in and brightening up

towards the south of england by the end of the afternoon, turning cloudy for northern ireland and scotland seeing some of the best of the sunshine with highs towards the north and west, 21, possibly 22 degrees. turning cloudy here and cooler as we head through the bank holiday weekend. on saturday, this waving front continues to push north bringing cloud and rain with it, and cooler air behind it so a dip in temperature for most of us. through saturday we could see showers across the south of england and wales but it's generally sunny and because we are at the beginning of may it will feel warm in the sunshine, temperatures lower than they have been at 13—18 . through the rest of the bank holiday weekend it's quite me55y so keep an eye on the forecast. when the sun shines it will feel warm but expect some showers

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